Monday, February 9, 2015

Welcome Home Spidey! [UPDATE]

It has finally happened...

Sony Pictures and Marvel Studios have worked out a deal... Spider-Man will now be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe!

An all-new Spider-Man that has nothing to do with the Amazing Spider-Man series that is now fitted into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That's all gone. Sinister Six, Amazing Spider-Man 3, all kaput. They won't be happening now...

Spider-Man is set to appear in an MCU installment before his new solo movie debuts on July 28, 2017... Captain America: Civil War, anyone?

Sony will be distributing the solo film, though the Marvel Studios logo in its full glory should appear at the beginning of the film.

About that date... That was Thor: Ragnarok's release date. With Spidey now in the mix, the schedule has shuffled, though the two Avengers: Infinity War epics remain in the same place:

Untitled Marvel Spider-Man Film - July 28, 2017
Thor: Ragnarok - November 3, 2017
Avengers: Infinity War, Part I - May 4, 2018
Black Panther - July 6, 2018
Captain Marvel - November 2, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War, Part II - May 3, 2019
Inhumans - July 12, 2019

Whoa, wait a minute! So I'm guessing the events of the Black Panther film and the Inhumans film will not really set up Infinity War Part I after all... Was this always planned from the get-go? Did Feige know he would get Spider-Man when announcing that slate? After all, that was slate was unveiled after Sony claimed The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was a box office disappointment.

However... Some fine-print reading...

Sony will apparently still have creative control over the solo Spider-Man films... But I'm told that it's a different kind of creative control, it has more to do with rights and such, and that Marvel Studios and Feige will still be running the show. I seriously hope so, because I don't want any Amazing Spider-Man 2-esque hack job movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe canon. (Yes, I consider something like Iron Man 2 to be a decent film and far better than something like Sony's last Spidey train wreck.)

Curiously, The Hollywood Reporter is one of the few if not the only groups reporting that Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach will executive produce the solo films...

I'm sure there's more to this, considering that Kevin Feige was supposed to be at odd ends with Arad and would not make a deal unless Arad got demoted to a small role or was booted out of the picture completely. Also, Marvel had a whole game plan laid out if they couldn't get Spidey back, so they didn't really need him anyway... But the deal was made, so something must be at play here. Even if Sony does have creative control, I reckon that they won't even think about pissing off Kevin Feige, Marvel Studios, and most of all... DISNEY, by making another Amazing Spider-Man 2-esque mess. That would be a colossally stupid move on their part, and I'm sure they wouldn't want to anger the mouse. Or their superiors in Japan. Especially since CEO Bob Iger himself made a statement on the collaboration. Also, given what Sony Pictures just narrowly got out of it, they'd be wise to back off...

Anyways, let a thousand theories blossom. Who is playing Spider-Man? Will it be Peter Parker again? Or will it be Miles Morales? Who is directing? What's the title? How will they imply his origins without having to retell them in a 2-hour film? So much to ask, who knows if they'll even answer things tomorrow... What with Civil War beginning production in a couple months. They might even have the new guy in place.

Also... Poor Andrew Garfield. I liked him as Spider-Man, he was the bright spot of that short-lived series. Really, Amazing Spider-Man could've been a pretty solid series, but nope. Ignorant execs didn't let that happen. It's a shame because the wrong people often get blamed. Marc Webb is a good director and the way he conceives certain scenes in Amazing Spider-Man 2 proves it, but he was essentially a yes man. He had no control over that film whatsoever, all he could do was just get the movie made. Hopefully with Marvel Studios' Spider-Man film, we get the Spider-Man film we deserve...

UPDATE (2/10/2015): Apparently a Sinister Six film is still on the docket... But it probably won't be anything like what Sony had in mind before the agreement was made, and probably won't be released for years. There's a lot of work to do first...


The Hollywood Reporter's newest article clarifies a few things, alongside Variety's...

#1. Spider-Man is simply being leased. There will apparently be only one MCU Spider-Man film, with Spidey also appearing in films like Civil War and Infinity War. Sony and producer Amy Pascal are likely to have more influence over who gets casted as Spider-Man, but going a smart route, they are reportedly looking for someone much younger to portray the new Peter Parker rather than someone in their mid-to-late 20s/early 30s. This is probably how much creative control they'll have, but again, it would be wise of them not to anger Disney and Marvel. They (Sony Pictures' execs) should be thankful of them, for they are helping them out of their mess.

#2. Marc Webb won't be directing. His directing, I feel, was the best thing about the Amazing franchise, particularly in the second film. But the good thing is, he'll now be free to do whatever he wants. He can go back to indie-sized films like his debut film.

#3. Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach, being executive producers now, are confirmed to have "no real say" in what goes into the film or the future of the franchise. *cue the massive sigh of relief*

#4. A source says that this is the first step of a big plan of sorts... This move will either lead to Marvel Studios/Disney getting Spider-Man back, or Disney purchasing Sony Pictures outright. WHOA on the latter scenario...

#5. When Sony announced at Comic-Con time last year that they would be delaying Sinister Six and The Amazing Spider-Man 3 instead of negotiating with Marvel Studios, some of Marvel Studios' execs weren't too pleased...

#6. Marvel Studios will be "central in coming up with a storyline" for the character.

#7. Avi Arad is apparently tired of going to New York for Spider-Man movies, and is intending to focus on other things, such as Sony Animation's Popeye (don't screw that one up either, Arad!) and getting the rights to... Mario? Yeesh.


  1. I'm really sad about Andrew Garfield. Is there any way he could still be cast as Spidey?? I thought He was an AMAZING Spider-Man (pun intended)...

    That being said, I'm really REALLY looking forward to have Spidey be part of the Marvel Universe Now! Thanks for keeping us all in the loop.

  2. yessssssssssssssssssssssss this is great

  3. Well, ever since 2006, Disney's made a major acquisition every 3 years, so one is due this year. But assuming Disney buys out Sony Pictures, what'll happen to Seth Rogen's Sausage Party? I can't imagine Disney wanting to put their name on an R-rated animated film.

  4. Touchstone, maybe? Either that or Disney will have Rogen/Goldberg/Nitrogen shop it to another distributor.

  5. Let's keep our fingers crossed. That's one movie I don't want to see fall through the cracks, if this merger happens. By the way, are they talking about the whole Sony company ( you know, the one that makes DVD players and PlayStations) or just the movie division?

    1. I have a feeling it's the movie division.

  6. Welcome HOME, Spidey !

  7. I can't access your Alternate Kyle's Animated World anymore! What happened to it? Did you shut it down?

  8. I doubt Disney would want to buy Sony Pictures. I really don't think it'll happen, despite all the rumors. Well, only time will tell.