Monday, June 22, 2015

Pixar Plot Twist: What If 'Toy Story 4' Gets Pushed Back?


This sounds crazy...

I bet it probably won't end up happening, but what if...

What if... Pixar pushed Toy Story 4 back a year?

Now how in the world did this come to mind?

Well, I was thinking of Pixar's slate, Walt Disney Animation Studios' slate, and one particular Pixar film that quite frankly shouldn't be a May/June release or a Thanksgiving release...

You probably know what that particular project is...

Lee Unkrich's untitled film about Day of the Dead, the Mexican holiday. Dia De Los Muertos.

I also think that Walt Disney Animation Studios should not be shut out of 2017, as they are at the moment. I want that 11/22/2017 date that Pixar has locked in its talons to go to Disney Animation, while Pixar takes WDAS' 3/9/2018 release date... Because Walt Disney Animation Studios has another production coming out in 2018, that will bow in November of that year. No loss there...

Anyways, the current 2017-2018 slate looks like this...

Toy Story 4 - 6/16/2017
Untitled Pixar - 11/22/2017
Untitled WDAS - 3/9/2018
Untitled Pixar - 6/15/2018
Untitled WDAS - 11/21/2018

Toy Story 4, according to Pixar, entered development in summer 2012. The film was officially announced last November, 2 1/2 years into its development journey... Was that release date announced because Pixar was confident in it that it would indeed make it to 2017? Or was this just a temporary date to please investors and shareholders?

Now, it entered development in summer 2012, right? Well, the Day of the Dead film was in development since 2011. Lee Unkrich, who directed 2010's Toy Story 3, went into it not too long after finishing his smash hit. Hints of it peaked through in fall 2011, so it was in development before Toy Story 4.

What else entered development before Toy Story 4?

According to various sources, Cars 3...

Animation Anomaly posted an article about the threequel back in January 2013, asking how long will it be until the film is announced. Check out this comment, and take it with some grains of salt...


I would believe they'd begin work on it that early on. Also, remember when Michael Wallis - the voice of the Sheriff - let it slip in August 2013 that it was happening and it would be about Route 99? Now I was told that it was indeed chugging by 2013. Also, this storyboard artist at Pixar tweeted this the day Toy Story 4 was announced...


I bet it entered development back in summer 2011. Again, why wouldn't it? This is the Pixar franchise that makes Disney bean counters happy. Cars 3 was an inevitability since before the second one opened, anyway.

So Toy Story 4 entered development after these two pictures (a piece of concept art for Day of the Dead was released in January 2013 as well, a little while before Finding Dory concept art surfaced), and is coming out ahead of them? Well, who knows...

If Pixar's 11/22/2017 release isn't the Day of the Dead film, when does the Day of the Dead film come out? Pixar's slate ends at 6/15/2018 right now, so the earliest it can open is September/October 2018. The Day of the Dead holiday occurs from October 31st to November 2nd, so why release a film about that holiday in the summer or any time after Halloween?

What if... What if...

Pixar announces that Toy Story 4 will be pushed back a year? What if Toy Story 4 becomes their 6/15/2018 release?

I wouldn't be surprised if Pixar did this, because at one point in time, Pixar and Disney announced that Toy Story 3 would come out in 2009. This was back in 2006 when Pixar, after much trouble with Disney and the whole Circle 7 debacle of the final Eisner years, began work on "their" Toy Story 3. Or re-launched it, because Pixar - by many accounts - did have a Toy Story 3 planned before the acquisition. One they couldn't make for a little while...

However, in 2007, an original story called Up was announced and because that was in active development before Toy Story 3, it moved ahead of it on the slate. It was now the 2009 release, with Toy Story 3 moving back to 2010.

I can see the same happening for Toy Story 4...

They give it another year to breathe, another year to really come together as a great, cohesive whole that's more than worthy of the Toy Story trilogy.

So what takes its place?

Cars 3 now opens June 16, 2017. Six years since the last one, and it makes Disney happier. Since it was in development for a long time, it won't be a rush-job, which Cars 2 was. Cars 2 began development in early 2008, and came out in summer 2011, just three years after being started...

Pixar hands the 11/22/2017 release date over to Disney Animation, for whatever they chose to release on that date (Frozen 2? Something we never heard of?), and they instead release the Day of the Dead film in mid-October 2017...

With Disney Animation getting their fall 2017 slot, Pixar takes the 3/9/2018 slot and puts the untitled Mark Andrews film in it. Then Toy Story 4 debuts on June 15, 2018. Disney Animation releases their next film on November 21, 2018...

Everyone has their cake and eats it too, and that way we got at least one film from Pixar and Walt Disney Animation Studios every calendar year...

Cars 3 - June 16, 2017
Los Muertos - October 13, 2017
Untitled WDAS - November 22, 2017
Untitled Pixar Original - March 9, 2018
Toy Story 4 - June 15, 2018
Untitled WDAS - November 21, 2018
Untitled Pixar Original - Spring 2019
Untitled WDAS - Summer 2019
The Incredibles 2 - Holiday 2019

2 comments:

  1. I enjoy these "Guess the Disney/Pixar movie slate", it gets me pumped for the future! There are going to be so many great films coming out over the next few years. I'm not sure Pixar can pull off that many films - 2015 is the first time they will have 2 films in the same year, it seems super difficult to so quickly get to 2 films/year for 3 years in a row. Like you, I could see Cars 3 and Los Muertos in 2017 (moving the date of Los Muertos into October), but then in 2018 only have Toy Story 4 and the 2 WDAS films. Then 2019 has the original Andrews film and The Incredibles 2. Whatever happens, I think you're right and we will see some news on the film slate soon, and I'm excited to hear what's coming!

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    1. You know, I can see that actually happening. I think it's taken Pixar a while to ease into getting two films ready for a calendar year (as seen many times before, starting at the time when 'Brave' and 'Newt' were slated for 2011!), so maybe they'll just have a single release in 2018, and have two in 2019.

      Sounds like a good plan, so long as they allow Disney Animation to get something out every calendar year. Like I'd still like to see Disney Animation get a film released in fall 2017 if Pixar decides to make Los Muertos an Oct 2017 release, and something out in 2019. Maybe Pixar can do March and Nov 2019, while Disney can take the summer spot. First time since 'Winnie the Pooh' in 2011.

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